At an archdiocesan pastoral council meeting on April 2, Cardinal Rainer Maria Woelki called Pope Francis “an old man” who is “out of touch with reality,” several attendees said.

“An archdiocese spokesperson confirmed … that Woelki had called Francis an ‘old man’ but emphasized that the remarks were not meant to be disrespectful to the 85-year-old Pope,” according to the report..