The involvement of Pope-emeritus Benedict in a book defending clerical celibacy is a closed issue, Pope Francis told Italian journalist Eugenio Scalfari. In a new telephone conversation with Scalfari, the Pope downplayed the significance of disputes within the Church, saying that in a large organization “there is always someone contrary.” The Pope’s conversations with Scalfari—an avowed atheist—have furnished some of the most controversial quotes of the current pontificate.